Hard choices and challenges follow triumph

did you say THAT man I dare you !! thats in the new book of racism remarks

LOL goldfish wait  a big surprize is in store for all of us just wait

In response to HolyCow, what words aren't racist??  Really you can't hardly say anything without offending someone,,, it is absolutely amazing that the racial issue hasn't been touched on by our "HOPE", "CHANGE", President elect Obama.  After all he wants unity,, we will see what he does when the racial divide gets worse.  Just curious how is it that he is African American when he has roots in two races and multi-cultures.  He of all people represents the "melting pot" of America and he should just be termed and "American", and not defined by his skin color.  By stressing the race issue it only demeans and distracts his actually mission.  And if you were a true supporter of him,,,you would stand up and say race has nothing to do with it, his abilities transcend his physical being.  Yet nobody will say that why????

chop007

Russia has been doing this before the election.  Just like they have bombers in Venezuela.  It is because our armed forces are spread thin and tired; not because of our newly elected president.  You are still trying to twist and manipulate events in a negative way.  All current happenings are the result of failed antiquated policies of the Bush administration. 

How can you even think that any of the current mess can be atributed to an election result less than 24 hours old.  You are not even sensible.  Dare I say; you are borderline retarded!

We can only become strong again, by pulling out of Iraq, and reconstituting our forces. 

How can we be attacked now... we were told that if Obama is elected that the world will like us again... wasn't that a part of it??? Bush made the world hate us and Obama will make the world love us. So why would anyone attack us??? Obama is here and now there is peace and love in the world.

This is part of what's wrong with American youth - you can't delay gratification.  You don't know what sacrifice means.  You'd think growing up in the information age you would have listened more to what was being said during the campaign.  Change doesn't occur overnight.

Reverend Wright will be obama's friend once more

Now we will see if obama can remember all the tall tales and promises he made. I'm betting not.

middleearth:

Rev Wright does not speak for President Elect Obama. 

Rev Wright left college to serve in the Marine Corps and then the Navy.  He headed the President's call to do for his country. 

Are you a veteran?

Spree........ your vision of our country has hit an all time low This makes me concerned as to what "vision" you have. It is interesting that all you bitter racists and xenophobes have plenty to criticize but will not offer solutions, or work with the other side to make change happen. You all are so well entrenched in your fears and hatreds that you will miss this historic opportunity . You will slander, whine, and lick your wounds until 2012 when your bigotry and hatred will reassert itself. If we as Americans do our job your cries will be less and less heard until you are looked upon as dinosaurs of an age where narrow minded government ruled the day.

Adding to a previous inquiry regarding the inauguration, will he use the bible or the Koran at the swearing-in?

Shut up!  You sound like a very prejudiced person.  Under our constitution, ALL citizens have equal rights regardless of race, color, national origin or religion.  Or, do you want to change this?  I was so proud to hear that a non-wasp was elected (and I'm a white Christian senior citizen)!  It gives me hope that some day all people of the USA will be judged by the content of their character (as Dr. King said) - not how they look or talk.

biggots like you are what is wrong with the United States

spree, were you born ignorant or is it an inherited trait. waaa waaa. We gave your iduiot 8 years and look where we are now. Of course Obama cannot fix all of bushe's screw ups in 1 year. But you can damn well bet he will be trying.I am really sick of hearing you pukes whine and cry. we will fix America or we will go down fighting to do so. Give your new President a chance. Certainly he can't do worse than the last dumbass

yes, but he was the best dumbass ever!, just look around you......

Past eight years!  On the surface, but if you dig deeper; you will find it was his father who initially armed and trained all the terrorist we now hunt.  This was done when he was the director of the CIA.

bush was the worst president SO FAR... we have just elected his successor who will be far worse than bush ever was. i can no longer assign myself to a party... they are all the same, but now we have an inexperienced smooth talker who doesnt know the first thing about running a country as our president... god help us all for we are surely doomed... people voted for obama because they are anti-republican; not all republicans are the same... it's like saying all jewish people are cheap or all black people are lazy... if we shouldnt judge eachother based on stereotypes, then why did we vote based on a stereotype?

You can blame who ever you want to blame but he will never be my president!

Concerned One.....Are you planning to move to another country??

Debbie, I have to agree with you, but as they say, you can run but sooner or later you will be caught. He had his mind on winning, so now I think he will let his guard down and slip ups will be made and the truth about him will surface.

He didn't win with the liberal vote alone---he won with the uneducated vote and I was sick of them calling Republicans rednecks and uneducated. He won because of his color and no other reason and I am not even close to being a racist as one of my best friends is black. I hate racism in any form. But when one of voter's parents or grandparents get to an age where health care will not be given to them, then they will realize what health plan he was going to implement. Today is certainly the day of change but I am afraid it's not going to be the change he spoke of.

Debbie, Box of Chocolates - You have both made excellent points. As Americans, Obama supporters and the rest of us need to say one thing to President Elect Obama at this stage of the game. That one statement is "President Obama, Show us the change!"

He deserves 90 days after the inauguration to prove he is not just a typical political stooge. I will even give him 24 months to get the troops out of Iraq, as long as he brings them home, does not count if they are sent to another country. Remember he promised he would have them out of Iraq in 16 months.

For all the Obama supporters, I hope that you will be going to work, paying your bills and watching as your hopes fade as quickly as his promises.

I also hope the McCain supporters will be going to work, paying your bills and working to improve this country.

This Democrats family, frIends and associates all go to work and pay their bills. 

Many Republicans voted for Obama as well. 

And yes, I want to see some changes, but no person can do it alone.  To state you are so educated in these posts, but then type uneducated, not willing to work and try statements is DUMB. 

Re entitlement plans...have you seen the YouTube video where the black woman is crying when the announcement was made that Obama had won?  She is saying "Now I won't have to worry about gas for my car and I won't have to worry about paying my mortgage!  He's gonna take care of me!"

Re entitlement plans...have you seen the YouTube video where the black woman is crying when the announcement was made that Obama had won?  She is saying "Now I won't have to worry about gas for my car and I won't have to worry about paying my mortgage!  He's gonna take care of me!"

Crossfire, you assumption is WRONG!  What is it with you Dems always trying to link a George supporter with someones true opinion????  And the move to another country comment is totally uncalled for and you wonder why people call folks like you names.  Stop being so childish and respect others opinion!!!

Concerned One....I am not a Dem. I'm an Independent and name calling doesn't bother me much. As to the comment about a move to another country, if you are an American, then Obama will be your new President, like it or not. I'm not "assuming" that voting for Bush was wrong. The proof is in the pudding.

crossfire, you should have told the Dems that back in 2004 when 76% of them  made the same comment so I have that same RIGHT!!!

Concerned One....You have every right to make any comment you like, as do I. I don't recall any Dems saying that Bush was not their President, let alone 76%. Where did you come up with that figure?

I find both partys lacking in almost every aspect and am working to see them thrown on their ears when the population wakes up, but Mr Obama is the President elect and will be the President.  As I read the idiotic partisan banter from both sides I wonder if anyone listened to his and Mr McCains call for unity.  Folks we are up to our eyeballs in crap, it was a bipartisan effort in my view.  Putting that aside because we reelected them, I plan to watch our leaders very closely and I expect accountability, if we would do that and quit calling each other names we might at least get these partisan's  we reelected to do their jobs.  The democrat or republican citizen you resent is not the problem, if you want better government open your eyes expect more and call it like it is not through partisan blinders.  If you really think its important for the government to rule your life, then make them do their job! They have stunk up the joint for the last couple of hundred years or so...

...except that if Gore had been elected, we probably wouldn't have invaded Iraq!

It is ironic as we approch the Thanksgiving season that remembers our departure from England for freedom of religion, and a better way of life for our children is now lost.

It's so ironic you would refer to freedoms when you vote McCain who would keep on with the demise of American freedom...

Amen scared in Indiana!  You just wait and see who is going to be taxed and how he's going to make you feel better about it.  He not my president and will never be my president and I was born and raised in the U.S. more then what he can say!!!

Scared in Indiana....Can you explain to me how CEO's "earn" millions in bonuses and severance packages while the companies they "work" for are going under? Oh, and you needn't be "scared". It's not nearly as bad as the prophets of gloom are predicting.

Let's keep religion off this board!!!!! 

How long until I see my middle class taxes go up... that is the real question? First the Bush tax cuts will expire, then Obama will say things are worse than he thought so he is going to raise taxes again. Then companies burdened with higher taxes, giving them less cash flow will raise their prices to me. I am excited and simply just cannot wait to pay more than I am today.

Concerned One...your the one who threw the AMEN in there brother...

JEM0124

With the exception of the Big Three auto companies (which are now asking the taxpayers to bail them out) can you name THREE other products that are made in the United States?  Nike shoes went offshore years ago, labor costs are next to nothing, but have they lowered the price of their shoes to pass their savings along to their customers?  THAT WOULD BE A BIG FAT NO!  With the exception of the local farmers market, try to find produce the is grown in the United States in your local Piggly Wiggly.  I'm tired of reading all this BS that taxing the companies will drive jobs out of America and raise prices to consumers.  Corporations have been screwing American consumers for years, even after getting tax breaks and bailouts.  The biggest recipients of welfare in this country are the corporations (whose executives make millions while paying their foreign workers less for a weeks work than American workers make in an HOUR and the farmers who are paid NOT to grow crops!)

tessainmo...

You are right, the bailout was wrong and the government should not bail out the BIG 3 as that is just a bail out for Wall Street... let them go under so that there are over 100,000 jobs lost. Wait... that does not make any sense... maybe a bail out for companies does keep jobs... I am sure Reagan got it wrong when he bailed out Chrysler which saved thousands of jobs... right??? Can't see past the fog to see the truth can you?

Second, if taxes make no difference on jobs and prices, why do we not tax corporations at 90%? Duh... because it makes a difference... get over it!

He a joke that he was voted in because of  the hatred of George Bush.  I just hope that feeling isn't the damnation of this country!!

He was voted for because he was the most intelligent and the best qualified to move us into the new global economy and world. 

We can no longer survive under republicans 1920's course of action.  Or Bush's dictatorship.  Yes I said it!  Bush was as close to a dictator as has ever been in this country, especially before dems gained control of congress.

InJustice, What???  Are you kidding?

i GUESS  you are not an American citizen.  BYE!!!!

Robert and Concerned are living in the 51st state - the state of Denial.

I am not only an American citizen, but a retired Army Veteran who served 20 years!

I take advantage of nothing, I earn it.

No Tammie, they are not here, but they were on another seed last night gloating so much I wanted to puck!

Tammie, the opportunity is just WORK hard like everyone else does and there will be rewards.  Not everyone that makes that magic number had it given to them, they work darn hard for it and now you want some!  Get it like most hard working people do WORK FOR IT!!!!@  And as far as the whining comment, wait you will be doing the same thing when he doesn't follow through with all his empty promises!!!

Wow-ticked some people off here,  I do work I get up everyday and go to work and I work hard for my money and I would like to keep a little more of it.  Don't just assume because I have a different opinion that I don't work or that I don't have a good paying job because I do.   But it is time for the rich to carry the burden of the taxes now, give the middle class the opportunity to move forward. 

Tammie! Go ahead & believe the lies from the Democrats about the middle class getting more.

I don't think so, did you see Obama's tax numbers drop from $250K down to possibly $120K. We barely make the bottom number & we are taxed out the --- right now. Taxes on my 3,400 sg ft home is $6000.00 a year! That's an additional $500.00 a month income to pay this.

 Plus our state tax on clothes etc is at 9%. Our gas is taxed, the booze is really taxed. This is because of the Democrats, yes this is how they spread the wealth.

I will stop buying, hoard my money get my guns & hunker down for those terrorist/Iran... to come and buy us when we hit the depression. Oh yeah, the Great MS America will be sold or taken over...and this is not panic it's believable.

Oh heck Tammie, I need to leave, but I have to tell you, that most of the people who pay taxes are people making just above the $250,000 mark. I hope you don't work for a small business like that, because you may be clearing your desk soon. These are the people who work hard for us, not the filthy rich like good ole oprah---she looks down on poor people and so will he---just wait and see.

We all have to work hard to keep this country going. Most common people who become well to do have worked hard for that money and invested it wisely----do the same instead of waiting for a hand out that you didn't earn. We were once considered middle class and we have fallen to the lower middle and my husband works hard every day. I can no longer work because I am disabled, so maybe a free check might help us too, but I don't want something I didn't earn.

Tammie....I don't think you ticked them off. They've been ticked of since last night because they didn't get what they wanted. As for assumptions, they are full of them. That's not your fault either.

Tammie, the burden of the taxes that we pay is felt by all and why should one group pay less the others??   And you want to move forward ,you need to do that by educating yourself for better jobs, by investing money for the future, must I go on!   

Crossfire-your right, it's not worth it, will never convince them that they could be  wrong.

I guess that now we will learn if trickle up economics works.

Tammie, I make 50k a year and I am worried that I am going to have my taxes increased. One the Bush tax cuts expire my taxes will go up, even if Barack made the adjustment to double his current plan it will still be less that the Bush tax cut. So, I will be hung out to dry twice once by the loss of the Bush tax cut and the other by Obam's plan which will end up costing my job.

Tammie, It's obvious that Concerned One has never heard of the progressive tax system that we've had since early last century (1915 or so).  I'm pretty sure he also can't tell you when supply-side (trickle-down) economics has ever worked in this country. 

I love how people on these boards assume that all poor people are poor because they don't work hard. That's the biggest load of crap. If you're born into a poor family or neighborhood even if you do work hard everyday of your life you start of at a HUGE disadvantage. You people are going to tell me that people like Paris Hilton who were born into wealthy families work for their money? That's all that Obama is talking about, people like Paris Hilton can afford to pay more in taxes so that someone making 30-40-50K a year can have a little bit more money in their pocket

The Gap between the rich and the poor is growing more and more and this present crisis will make the gap even larger. Who do you think is going to have the money to invest in low priced stocks and real estate in the next few years (hint: richer people) and that will make them even richer when those stocks and buildings increase in value.

Concerned one:

And you want to move forward ,you need to do that by educating yourself for better jobs, by investing money for the future, must I go on!   

LOL you're very funny, because someone working 60-70 hours a week at minimum wage trying to raise a family, has extra money to invest and 30k to spend on College!!!

Good ol' days:

Why are you implying the only people who have earned anything are republican supporters? 

Republicans are not the only ones who have worked hard for their success.

What opportunities might those be Tammie-547116? I happen to be a hard working middle class American and I do not see what opportunities Obama is affording me.

I am neither a republican or democrat and I pay a load of taxes and don't want to pay any more than I do now, I dont think I am selfish as Itry to support independent agencies that are far more efficient than the government in how it distributes its funds.  I do however get rather tired of others defining me.  The top wage earners already pay a large percentage of the taxes levied in this country.  For some it isn't enough, for those who pay it is quite a burden.  Interestingly enough some of us have been hit rather hard by the slowdown and are working our butts off to compensate for the slowdown, a second hit through higher taxes will make it difficult to justify the effort.   Adding more expense to doing business (which by the way is passed on to my customers whenever possible) seems a bit much.  I work very hard for my income and pay a my share of taxes, I resent the envy of my success manifested by even higher taxes.  

The only bs being portrayed is coming from you and those like you.  The rest of us are waiting for Bush to get out of the way so we can get down to business of getting this country healthy again.

By you keeping them home you have just successfully taught your children prejudice. 

InJustice.....are you serious? Prejudice? WOW- it's people like you that fuel prejudice & hatred!!!

uppity?  haven't heard that used for a while and I am not crazy about hearing it now, teach your kids tolerance and understanding it will serve them well. 

Box of Chocolates.....Thanks for the laugh. When I was voting yesterday there was a guy who had to redo his ballot not once, not twice but three times because he filled in too many circles. He had his piece of paper with names. Too hilarious. There should be a test for voters and if you don't pass...you can't vote. Thanks again for the chuckle!

From what I hear, the Troops hate Obama.

Obama is not a leader!

Obama wanted his picture taken with them & they had no respect for him.

Pitbull - There were quite a few reports in the news that the troops overwhelming were supporting McCain...which makes you wonder why they ended up "holding" those absentee ballots??  I also know a few soldiers or family of soldiers and they said the same thing.  The troops know a difference has been made and want to finish that job.  Also, Obama may take them out of Iraq, but in the last few months, he has stated he will turn our attention and send those trips to Afghanistan.  Same fight, same losses, just a different location.

I supported McCain because I was never able to find an actual plan or way to execute the "change" Obama said he would bring.  I couldn't find one person to give me an explanation of why they were supporting him other than that they wanted change.  I hope and pray for my daughter's sake that somehow with him as president and the democrat congress that he is able to fulfill the promises he spewed during the election in a way to benefit all americans and not just a few.  I don't think it is right to punish someone because they are successful.  If they want to donate to charity that is their business and right to do so and no one should be forced to give it away.

'benefit all Americans, and not just a few"????? Spoken like a true Republican!!!  That has been the Republican policy for a LONG, LONG time.

Actually I am an independent that voted for both republicans and democrats when I voted this year as I do every election...I just don't feel I need to carry anyone else's financial burdens. Obama has talked a lot of talk without lying out how it's going to work.  I can say I will end world hunger, bring peace, give all my employees raises...but without some plan or financial backing, it isn't going to happen.  This isn't a republican vs democrat issue...it is a matter of common sense. 

Pitbull with lipstick:

That's funny!  I just retired from service in Feb 2007; and I still work for the Army.  I have not witnessed this lack of support for Obama.  It is really the opposite.  Only a very few supported McCain.  Remember McCain has consistently voted against improvements for service members. 

And do not be mistaken; there is no love for Bush.  Soldiers have a sense of duty, but there is very little respect for Bush!

Bill....Good post. Even McCain said he will do everything in his power to help the new President.

Bill, so we are going to do that by redistributingthe wealth????  And as far as the love her or leave her comment, were not going to leave, were going to fight for what is right not just whats right for the ones that want a free hand out!  I have ALWAYS been proud of my country and will not disrespect the American flag not like the ones that will soon take office!!!  God Bless Our America!!!@

crossfire, he has to say that just like Clinton's had to say that, they all have to be good little solders and don't step out of line.

McCain knows Obama is going to need the HELP! No man that was tortured for 5 years straight wants his country to die! That's why he lived.

Who was the guy with Obama's face pasted on the American flag? I tell you, Obama never wore a flag pin, probably doesn't know the words to the allegiance or can sing America the beautiful word for word!!

Pitbull....You're wrong about the flag pin. Obama has been wearing one ever since a Viet Nam vet in PA. gave him one and asked him to wear it. On the other hand, I watched all 3 debates and Obama had his pin on and McCain didn't in any of the 3 debates. McCain didn't have a flag pin on last night either. You are assuming way too much.

Crossfire, Let see they had to ASK him to wear one!  What's wrong with that??????

Concerned One,

Take a chill pill!! And, if that doesn't work continue with your cynical B.S.. It'll take more than that, though, to get back what you think you've lost. Majority rule, baby. It's been that way since The Mayflower Compact. One man, one vote. Get used to it.

Concerned One...."THEY" didn't ask him. One Viet Nam vet asked him. Someone should have "asked" McCain to wear one because he hasn't been wearing one, so your arguement doesn't make any sense. Obama needs to wear a pin, but McCain doesn't ???

Kind of off subject, but, did anyone notice that Palin mostly wore an Alaska pin (and not an American flag pin) throughout the campaign?

Pitbull with lipstick:

Once again empty rhetoric!  Most of the people I work with are retired military like me and non of us wear US Flag Pins.  So are we less American?  We have fought for our country, but we appreciate you telling us; not wearing a pin negates our contributions.  Thank you!

Obama expressed interest in attaining unity during the campaign.  I think he will genuinely seek to unite the country for positive change.  I hope and pray that he succeeds.

Box of Chocolates....I'm sure the President's salary is high enough that he will be able to afford to dress his wife.

I thought his salary was high already---how did he afford that million dollar house they live in????????

Michelle's dress was so UGLY!!

Pitbull--It WAS ugly.  With all of their ill-gotten money, can't she buy something decent and attractive?  Why didn't her pal Okra Winfrey lend her some rags? 

Box, uh let's see.  He makes about $160,000, she was making about $300,000 and he wrote two relatively successful books.  You know..... he worked for it.

And once his term is finished Barack Obama can live on his Government pension for the rest of his life with Government provided body guards. Retirement at 50 with full benefits and bodyguards for the rest of his life. Wish I could get a government pension at 50.

That isn't any different than any previous president, including the one in the white house right now.  I believe, John McCain is currently receiving his senate paycheck, military pension and social security.

You really have to admit that is the ugliest dress ever. She needed to spend alittle more time picking out an outfit for her husband's Victory rally. Obama himself said he does not like the clothes Michelle picks out for him. I can see why!

Crossfire, Let's see they had to ASK him to wear one!!!!  What's wrong with that????

Concerned One....Why are you concerned about Obama, but not about McCain? McCain didn't wear a flag pin during any of the 3 debates and he didn't have one on last night. Does that make him unpatriotic? Move on, please. Your weak arguements just don't wash. Sorry.

I actually had 14 people not show for work today and everyone black except one pregnant woman...well least i know the first 13 i fire

Companies are already doing the same thing you meantion. We are going backwards not forward. People who own companies with employee's are selling them & retiring!

They won't be able to afford them under Obama's ruling. These dumb little boozing college dweebs are ruining America!

Obama did not win the majority of white college educated citizen's. He won the white non educated non-college vote.

Be so proud Obama!

Tristen...quit lying you don't even sound intelligent enough to have a job much less own a business